PlanningInformation from Nelson County's Planning Department
February 23, 2005
NELSON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
February 23, 2005
Present: Mr. Thomas Bruguiere, Mr. Michael Harman, Ms. Emily
Hunt, Mrs. Philippa Proulx ö Chair, Ms. Linda Russell, Dr. Valdrie
Walker
Staff Present: Mr. Fred Boger and Mrs. Betty Fortune
Call to Order: Chair Proulx called the meeting to order at 7:30
P. M. She announced sign-up procedures to the audience.
Approval of Minutes:
The minutes from the December 22, 2004 public
hearing were reviewed. No changes were made. Ms. Russell
made a motion to approve them, Ms. Hunt seconded the motion, and motion
passed 6-0.
Two corrections were made to the minutes of December
29, 2004: (1) Page 3, Item 7, addition to the last sentence
- ·Conditional Use Permit by the Board of Supervisors. (2) Page
10, 1st paragraph, addition to approval sentence ö Mr. Bruguiere made a
motion to approve the preliminary plat for Paul and Bonny Musgrave and
to give Mr. Boger the authority to approve the final plat, · Ms.
Russell made the motion to approve the minutes, Valdrie Walker seconded
the motion, and motion passed 6-0.
No changes were made to the minutes of January 5,
2005. Ms. Russell made the motion to approve, Ms. Hunt seconded
the motion, and motion passed 6-0.
(A brief notice has been placed in the file regarding the January 26 meeting which was not held due to lack of quorum.)
No changes were made to the minutes of February 2,
2005. Ms. Russell made the motion to approve, Mr. Bruguiere
seconded the motion, and motion passed 6-0.
No changes were made to the minutes of February 9,
2005. Ms. Russell made the motion to approve, Mr. Harman seconded
the motion, Ms. Hunt abstained, and motion passed 5-0.
Final Subdivision ö Glenn & Charles Simpson Property
Mr. Boger reported that Glenn Simpson has submitted the final
subdivision plat to divide 140.884 acres into three lots of 16.288
acres, 9.496 acres and 115.00 acres. The property is located east
of the intersection of Laurel Road and Brownings Cove ö Tax Map
#69-A-17E. The soils report has been approved by the Health
Department for parcels C and D. The subdivision ordinance
requires a perk test of all lots, which would include parcel E. He
stated further that map note #11 needs to be deleted because this
subdivision is not exempt from the subdivision requirements and map
note #10 requires revision to reflect the correct setbacks.
Utility easements must be shown for each lot and an entrance permit
will be required from VDOT for each lot, prior to construction of a
driveway. Either an E&S plan will be required or an agreement
in lieu of a plan will be required before any land disturbing
activities commence on each lot.
Additional information had been brought to Mr. Bogerâs attention
concerning a contract on part of this property. There had been
signed contracts on the 115 acres for two parcels of land instead of
one. The plat submitted to the Planning Commission, however,
shows one parcel. The prospective buyers cancelled the contracts,
so this is no longer a problem. Itâs unclear whether one or two
perk tests would be needed and the PC must be clear about whatâs being
approved ö one or two parcels.
Ms. Russell asked if anyone had given authorization to waive the soils
work and Mr. Boger stated that the Health Department requires the soils
work which has been done on two of the parcels. The PC can
recommend approval subject to soils work being completed.
Mr. Glenn Simpson stated that the contract Mr. Boger referred to has
nothing to do with the plat being submitted today. Mr. Rice
(Health Department official) told him he did not have to get a perk
test on the 115 acres. The perk test permit was given to the
potential purchasers. Further, Mr. Simpson has a letter from
David Johnson of VDOT stating that all driveways have been approved and
revisions will be made to the plat as Mr. Boger has instructed.
Ms. Russell noted that the letter from Mr. Rice does not say a perk
test doesnât have to be done and the letter doesnât indicate soils work
does not have to be done. There has been a perk test on the other
two lots. Mr. Simpson said that the right-of-way for the power is
on the corner lot. When it was sold, Mr. Simpson retained the
right-of-way for power from the corner lot to his property. Ms. Russell
stated that the plat note shows side yard setback of 10â from one
property line and 25â to another. That must be corrected to show
a total of 25â. She asked if Mr. Simpson had a sale for parcel
E. He did have a sale for the entire parcel.
Mr. Bruguiere asked why/how the Health Department did the perk test
before the soils work and Mr. Boger stated that special permission was
given in Tom Eickâs absence. It had been reported first that no
houses would be on the property. Mr. Simpson did have two signed
contracts for the 115 acre parcel, but that has been cancelled.
He stated again that the real estate contract has no bearing on the
approval requested at this time.
Mrs. Proulx opened the public hearing.
Lucy Colby. Ms. Colby, along with her partner Edwin White, had
two separate contracts for two separate parcels which make up Mr.
Simpsonâs 115 acre parcel. Mr. Simpson was aware of their
requirements, and because of being unable to give them the plat as
requested, the contracts have been terminated after five months of
negotiations with Mr. Simpson. Before the contracts terminated,
however, there was no clear property line on the plat. They had
told Mr. Simpson there had to be two lots, not one, and that they must
be clearly shown on the plat. She stated that Mr. Jimmy Wood,
real estate agent, had told her for the first time on February 23
that a perk test had been done on the 115 acres. They cannot
convey a clear title to the property under the present
conditions. There have been many inconsistencies in dealing with
Mr. Simpson. He had told Mr. Boger they were not going to build
on the property and they were. She thanked the PC for their time.
The public hearing was closed.
Mr. Simpson stated that the issue with Ms. Colby will be a legal
dispute. The perk test receipt was given to them. The
property was clearly marked on January 13 ö metal T-posts were driven
every 100 feet on the property line. He went to extra effort to
get power easements. He requested the perk test and gave them the
receipt because they couldnât get it on their own. He asked the
PC to consider what has been submitted.
Mr. Bruguiere asked how the power would get to parcels D and E.
Mr. Simpson said the deed shows a reserved right-of-way. On
Parcel E the Simpsons are hoping for underground service. Mr.
Boger said the easement is usually the property line and that they must
be shown on the plat. Mr. Simpson has the option of requesting a
postponement of the review at this time.
Mrs. Proulx stated that the PC has reservations about the corrections
to be made and that Mr. Simpson can request postponement or the PC can
vote. Mr. Simpson said he thought everything had been done.
Mrs. Proulx said the concern is getting the plat in compliance.
Mr. Simpson asked for a list of what is needed. He was
told: setback note corrected, easements/utilities shown, and
soils work documentation. He asked that Mr. Boger send him a
letter stating the items to be corrected and he requested a
postponement to the March meeting.
Rezoning #2004-006 ö Afton Service Center
Mr. Boger reported that Mr. Tommy Harvey is requesting to rezone
approximately 1.509 acres of land from Residential, R-1, to Business,
B-1, to be used for storage of vehicles for the Afton Service Center
(ASC). In April of 1997, a subdivision plat was approved to add
.907 acres to Tax Map #6-A-28. In May of 1997 the BOS approved
the rezoning of .907 acres of land from Residential, R-1, to Business,
B-1, to permit the applicants to build a new service building behind
the existing structure and, once completed, the old building would be
removed. The site plan for the new ASC was approved by the
PC. In February 2001 the BOS approved a rezoning of .491 acres
fromR-1 to B-1. The new storage area was to be enclosed with a
chain link fence and evergreen screening at the rear. The
required chain link fence was not installed, but a row of evergreen
trees was planted along approximately half of the rear property line of
parcel 2. The Planning Office received a written complaint of violation
of screening, required enclosure, and expansion into the R-1
district. In November 2004 a notice of violation was sent to the
applicant concerning the screening of the storage yard. One way
to correct the violation would be to rezone to B-1 and totally fence in
the enclosed area. Mr. Boger prefers not to make a recommendation
on this issue.
Mr. Tommy Harvey stated that he owns the ASC along with his wife.
It was built in 1960 and he began running it in August of 1974.
The business has grown over the years. Additional rezoning was
requested and received in 1997 and 2001. The request was for
space to expand the business; not to expand just the car area.
Getting rid of junk cars is difficult. If a person brings in a
vehicle that canât be repaired, they have the option of bringing in the
title and having the Center dispose of the car. Many abandoned
cars are also stored there. The ASC is important to the
County. It grosses about $2 million and pays about a half million
dollars in taxes. Their payroll is over $200,000 a year.
Mr. Harvey made the following comments to clear up some misunderstandings in the community:
1) He does not own land behind the property for which a rezoning is requested.
2) There is no excess oil on the land. The DEQ
has done several inspections and found no more oil on the property than
a person would find in their personal driveway.
3) Theyâve had plans to do the fence for some time,
and the delay was financial. He has been trying to get insurance
for his employees which has proven to be expensive. It seems no
problem started until they started planting the trees.
Mr. Harvey wants to move some cars to the back. The dump trucks
pay about half a million dollars in taxes and employ 5 people.
Mr. Harvey stated that no adjacent land owners oppose the
rezoning. Only two complaints have been heard since heâs been
there. He has a letter from a person living nearby who does not
oppose the rezoning. He showed pictures of all the adjacent land
with views from all sides.
Mrs. Proulx opened the public hearing.
Jim Gates lives and works in Nelson County as a builder and patron of
ASC. The location is convenient for travelers and a great
convenience to the neighborhood. Expansion of ASC would be good
and helpful.
Ronnie Quick is an adjacent property owner. Mr. Harvey conducts
business when itâs convenient for travelers, gives jobs to County
people, and provides for their livelihood. He has no problem with
the rezoning. Itâs a lengthy process getting rid of cars.
Charlie Marckel has lived behind ASC since 1968. In 1977
landscaping was planned to obscure the business from the
community. This was repeated in 1997. Now here in 2005, 28
years later, there has been no planting that protects the
community. The road is obscured, but people travel by it every
day. He has no objection to the rezoning if itâs done
properly. Before rezoning, planting needs to be completed.
He has no objection to expanding the business, but Mr. Harvey is
obligated to comply with zoning laws. He invited the PC to come
over and sit in his front yard to get a good view of the ASC.
Amy Moyer is opposed to the rezoning application. As a
Supervisor, Mr. Harvey should have been aware of the regulations and
should have asked for rezoning prior to using this residential
property. This has been a blatant disregard for the process and
has had a detrimental impact on the area. Property values will
suffer. She asked that the request be denied.
Georgia Moyer ö (Statement is attached.)
Harry Baum ö (Statement is attached.)
R. B. Morris stated that the BOS room needs a PA system, then
added that the PC should look hard at this request and should approve
the rezoning. The community built around the ASC, and Mr.
Harvey has helped others in the community by volunteering at the fire
house, rescue squad, etc. The dumpsters that were put on his
property were a real problem. Landowners are going to look at
replacing all the folks on the PC and Mr. Boger. Mr. Harvey
hasnât followed all the rules, but this zoning should be approved.
ãBoä Zirkle owns land adjacent to Tommy Harvey. The subdivision
built around the station, not vice versa. Tommy Harvey hasnât
done everything right, but people with a problem could go and talk with
him. The dumpsters were the biggest problem. Trash blew in
peoplesâ backyards. If the adjacent property owners donât have a
problem, others should leave it alone. As long as Mr. Harvey does
it half-way right, the rezoning should be approved.
John Pugh has lived on Tanbark for 40+ years. Since Tommy Harvey
bought the station it has improved. On weekends, 6 or 7 cars are
pulled off Interstate 64. There is no junk yard. Mr.
Harvey has 3 or 4 wreckers and men working for him. Mr. Pugh got
a call wanting him to sign a petition about oil being in the
ground. He went to the lot to see how much oil there was.
Mr. Harvey has worked for the fire department all his life and knows
what it takes to keep the environment clean. Heâs a good
neighbor, a good man, and supports the people and Nelson County.
He needs the land to grow his business and has spent $35-40,000 to try
to keep people happy. Mr. Pugh asked if this situation was
political.
June Baum lives on Tanbark and opposes the rezoning. Storage of
inoperable vehicles is an eyesore. Some have shrubs growing out
of them because theyâve been there so long. The vehicles come and
never leave. This area is visible from Rt. 151, from the
subdivision (side and rear). She lives ² mile down the road and
has to pass it every day. The definition of storage of vehicles
is not correct ö this is a graveyard. She asked that the PC save
the area and the property values. If vehicles could be processed
off, it would be more acceptable. She asked the commissioners if
they would want this in their neighborhood.
Carlton Ballowe lives in Faber and has interests in commercial property
down the road from ASC. He supports the request for
rezoning. The business is already there ö itâs a matter of
degree. He wishes other businesses had the same problem:
growing pains. This is a good opportunity for the PC to show that
they are ãbusiness-friendly.ä
Linda Cook lives beside Mrs. Baum and is a lifelong resident of Nelson
County. She is not offended when a lucrative business wants to
expand. Mr. Harvey has gone above and beyond the requirement to
plant trees. Everyone is responsible for these cars ö we wreck,
abandon, etc. She was asked to sign a petition. When she
declined, the conversation turned to a different matter. Everyone
is entitled to their own opinion. Mr. Harveyâs request is
reasonable. Heâs completely encased the area in fence and new
trees will also be planted. She asked that the PC not stop the
business from growing.
Mike Cook retired on 12/17. Since that time, all he hears is
ãjunk cars,ä ãWhatâs Tommy going to do tomorrow?ä, etc. Mr.
Harvey needs some good publicity like the fact that his business is
growing. Mr. Cook is in favor of the rezoning.
Donna Rodes is an employee of ASC. The issue seems to be junk
cars. Mr. Harvey doesnât want them either! The process is
that heâs called by the State Police for vehicles wrecked or abandoned
on Interstate 64. Someone has to get them. No one wants
them. He pays his employees $25 extra to go and get them and then
has to pay someone to crush and take them away. The rezoning is
needed. There is an incredible amount of business that goes on
there. Mr. Harvey is a great person and tries to do the right
thing. He has six mechanics in a5-bay garage. The expansion
would allow him to give better service.
Angela Robinson shared photos taken of the ASC and surrounding
area. She resides in Nelson County ö her family lives behind
ASC. She quoted information from Mr. Bogerâs October 2, 2001 and
March 15, 2002 letters (see file). A junkyard needs industrial
zoning classification ö an automobile graveyard, class C, is ãany lot
or space which is exposed to the weather and upon which more than five
(5) vehicles of any kind, incapable of being operated and which it
would not be economically practical to make operative are
located.ä The PC needs to be consistent. If one person has
a junk yard and is in violation of automobile graveyard, class C, and
you consider Mr. Harveyâs station ãstorageä, thatâs inconsistent.
Mr. Harvey has little regard for regulations. On April 14, 1997
he said he would plant pines to separate the residential area from his
business. In 1988 Jason Harvey was cited for operating his
hauling business out of ASC illegally. (Mrs. Proulx asked that
Ms. Robinson address Tommy Harveyâs situation only.) In January,
2002 Mr. Harvey said he would put up a fence and screen. As of
2004, there was no fence or trees. She did meet with Mr. Harvey
in November, 2004. At that time he said he wasnât going to put up
a fence. She asked the PC how they would like to have this for
their view in their neighborhood.
David McGann is owner of McGann Well Drilling. If his wifeâs car
breaks down, Tommy Harvey comes to the rescue. He doesnât see the
problem. The fence and trees are there. If people on the
mountain road think the scenery is bad, they donât have to ride
by. He approves the rezoning for the help of those trying to make
a living.
Clay Robinson is the husband of Angela Robinson. He has never met
Mr. Harvey, and recognizes that he has done some good in the
community. The whole thing is about whatâs right and whatâs
wrong. If itâs all about money, itâs not enough. How about
a buffer in this high density area? Whatâs enough money?
There is no political motive at work here.
Mr. Baum spoke again (see attached statement.)
Mr. Zirkle spoke again also. Oil tanks have been replaced at ASC
and all wells in the subdivision have tested clear. It was done
by DEQ. There is no oil in the wells.
The public hearing was closed.
Mr. Harvey asked if the petition was part of the public record and was
told that it was (see file in Zoning Office). He had
letters from Campbell and Henderson asking that their names be
withdrawn from the petition. He also had a letter from Dunlow
stating total support for the rezoning. He clarified the
following points:
1) No deadlines were placed on the site plan.
2) He has not been out of compliance since 1977. The first rezoning was in 1997.
3) There are no screens around Mr. Marckelsâs property and there is a lot of junk on his property.
4) What Mrs. Robinson said was false. He told
her trees had been purchased and fence had been arranged for.
5) There are only two complainers ö Baum and Robinson. No one living adjacent to ASC has a problem.
Ms. Russell asked how long cars usually stay there from pick-up to
ship-out. Mr. Harvey stated it could be as little as one day or
as long as someone wants them to stay there. He has one car
belonging to a person in the military that has been there 3-4
years. He wonât ask the family of a military man to move the
car. He hates having the cars there. He has two contractors who
will flat top and move 25 at a time. He has used a crusher from
time to time but does not prefer that method. As far as the dump
trucks are concerned, two of the operators live on Tanbark Drive and
parking them at ASC is much safer than going through the
subdivision. His sonâs business is operated out of the home, not
ASC.
Ms. Russell asked what the plans are for the chain link fence along the
north side. Mr. Harvey tried to put mature trees on Rt. 840 side,
as well as a chain link fence. Wind is very strong on that side
and many trees blew over. Any that didnât survive will be
replaced. Heâs planning to transplant trees along Rt. 840âs
wooden fence and put trees all the way up to the corner on Rt.
840. It will take 2 or 3 trees to get to the corner and then
heâll plant something thatâs already established ö probably 3-4â
trees. Itâs 100â from the property line to the fence and the
slope is from 6â to 10â. A 6-7â chain link fence encases the
lot. A vegetative screen will be placed between his property and
Windy Acres.
Mr. Bruguiere stated that rezoning conditions were verified with Mr.
Boger. The site plan will show fencing, lights, etc. He
questioned the need for an E&S report and was advised that storing
cars compacted the soil, which could affect drainage. Mr. Harvey said
that Steven Key has been hired to draw up the plan. Alyson
Sappington of Thomas Jefferson Soil & Water Conservation District
will come up and look at the site. She will decide if E & S
study is needed. Everything has been filed with
TJS&WCD. A letter from VDOT has also been received.
Mr. Bruguiere stated that heâs in favor of the rezoning and heâs under
no obligation to Tommy Harvey. He has no opportunity to do
business with him, but recognizes that he has provided a lot of service
to the community. He feels Mr. Harvey is in a ãCatch 22ä ö it
takes months to dispose of vehicles, but itâs better to have them in
the lot rather than all over the road. There are many illegal
junkyards in the County. Enforcement is a problem. Other
garage owners have the same problem ö the lot is full and thereâs no
fencing. Any towing requires a period of time to dispose of the
vehicles. If the rezoning is done, the site plan approved, trees
and fences done, the problem will be alleviated.
Mr. Boger stated that the letters he sent out regarded graveyards in
A-1, not the B-1 District. Ms. Russell feels the question is
whether this is storage of vehicles or a graveyard. Ms. Walker
questioned the number of vehicles allowed for storage. In A-1 the
number is specified; it is not specified in B-1. Mr. Boger said
that on a Conditional Use Permit all vehicles enclosed are allowed.
Dr. Walker addressed the debris from vehicles. Mr. Boger stated
that if the DEQ doesnât have a problem with it, it is allowed under the
ordinance if it is enclosed. DEQ comes into play if thereâs a
complaint. Mr. Harvey stated that in the past there has been no
random checking. They do check on the number of tires.
Theyâre ready to move a trailer full now.
Dr. Walker verified there was no timeline on the original site
plan. Mr. Harvey said there wasnât, but heâs willing to have a
date put on the new site plan.
Mr. Bruguiere made a motion to rezone 1.509 acres from R-1 to B-1 in
order to expand Afton Service Center. Mr. Harman seconded the
motion. Mrs. Proulx verified that the motion is to recommend the
approval to the Board of Supervisors. Ms. Russell said the motion
should include the type of screening needed on the north side and the
expansion of this area. It will serve the neighbors well if
expectations on vegetative screening and a time frame are indicated on
the site plan. Mrs. Proulx agreed but didnât feel rezoning was
the place to address this. Mr. Boger said that conditions cannot
be attached to the rezoning application.
Mrs. Proulx reiterated that this is an on-going business which needs to
expand. They should have done this (rezoning of the entire area)
all at once, but understands why delays in screening have
occurred. Basically, the rezoning is reasonable.
Dr. Walker said this is an unfortunate situation. The business
has been there a long time and the community built around the
business. Mr. Harvey says he will complete the screening.
Thereâs no reason not to approve.
Ms. Hunt said there is no question that Mr. Harvey has been a good
citizen; however, she canât see this business growing in sight of
these homes. She wishes there was another piece of land for them
to expand on.
Motion passed 5-1, with Ms. Hunt voting ãno.ä This request for rezoning will be heard at the next BOS meeting.
Final Subdivision Plat ö Mountain Ridge
Mr. Boger reported that Falling Creek Properties, LLC, has submitted
the final subdivision plat to divide 181 acres into eighteen (18)
lots. The property is located on the north side of Route 639
across from the intersection with Route 179 and identified as Tax Map
#69-A-17. VDOT has approved the entrance. A County water
system is not required because the lots are more than 300â from the end
of the existing water line. The developer will decide if he
wishes to connect to it or not. Soils work has been approved by
the Health Department. Staff has no problem approving this
plan. Mr. Greg Baldwin was available to answer any questions.
Mr. Bruguiere asked where the closest water line is located. Mr.
Boger said it was at the boundary for the subdivision. In the
Subdivision Ordinance the requirements are for the developer to be
ãsubject to the regulations of the Service Authority for public water
or sewer connections, including the extension of public water or sewer
lines to lots within the subdivision.ä In another case the BOS
has supported the Service Authorityâs position that their regulations
required water hook-up to structures within 300â of an existing
line. Mr. Baldwin will ask for an exception from the BOS.
The intent was to use the Service Authority requirement of 300â from
the end of the existing line. Dr. Walker said that no
subdivision can be required to connect to County water. The
developer could choose to connect, if itâs cost effective. Ms.
Hunt asked if the County could end up with the situation where areas
not designated as growth would be within 300â of the line.
Mrs. Proulx asked Mr. Baldwin if he has plans to hook up to public
water. He replied that he had been told at first that he would
have to and some lots were sold with water included. There is a
question as to whether there is sufficient water pressure to handle the
entire subdivision. Mr. Boger said this was talked about in the
preliminary review where Mr. Baldwin was told he would have to connect.
Mr. Bruguiere asked if there was a drainage easement between lots 6
& 7. Mr. Baldwin replied that drainage is already on the
property. Mr. Harman asked about whether dry hydrants would be
required. Mr. Baldwin said there is no on-site water now.
If public water is used, fire hydrants would be installed. If
private wells, no dry hydrants would be required because of the size of
the lots. Mr. Harman asked about road maintenance and Mr. Boger
replied it would be handled through agreements with property owners.
The public hearing was opened.
Chapin Wilson provided a written statement to the PC (see file) as well
as the following comments. The Service Authority plans to use
this subdivision as a ãjumping offä point. Block grant monies
were used in Piney River because the people were having problems with
their land not perking, etc. It is not a good thing to use block
grant dollars for the Mountain Ridge lots. He presented other
articles regarding community grant dollars being used for other
things. It is not a good idea to use County money for this.
The County needs to be careful ö this is a crucial issue. The
people on Brownings Cove donât want it! Why make them stop using
wells and springs? Mr. Wilson hopes the developer doesnât use
County water. The land is agricultural and borders on the
Agricultural/Forestal District which should be given some consideration.
Michele Spencer addressed a letter from Fred Boger. They have dug
wells with 25 gallons/minute and have their own springs. Another
concern is traffic. The lower end of Brownings Cove has decent
water and they want to keep it.
Andy Wright feels this is contrary to the Comprehensive Plan.
Residents along Laurel Road down to Rockfish are concerned about
development in that area. He asks that recommendation to the BOS
not include County water on this property. (Mr. Boger said that
would be a Service Authority decision. Additionally, Mr.
Bruguiere said he doesnât plan to recommend block grants for putting
water in these areas.)
Gordon Koerner of Brownings Cove thanked Mr. Baldwin for being a good
neighbor. He has removed the bank on Rt. 639 and improved
visibility. On lot 18 where land was donated for
right-of-way, he would like it to be knocked down. He encouraged
them to put water into the subdivision, but no further. He stated
that a number of workers on this project would like to see this
extended to meet their needs. He thanked Mr. Baldwin again for
the work thatâs been done so far.
With no further comments, the public hearing was closed.
Dr. Walker referred back to the discussion on providing water to the
subdivision. It seems the policy of water authority is in
conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Mrs. Proulx suggested that
a meeting between the water authority, PC and BOS is helpful to discuss
processes.
Ms. Russell made a motion to recommend approval of the final
subdivision for Mountain Ridge, plat dated November 20, 2004, sheet 1 ö
3. Mr. Harman seconded the motion.
Mrs. Proulx asked if Mr. Baldwin would need to come back to the
PC if he decides to put in water. Mr. Boger said it could be recorded
separately. Water easement is not required, but utility
easements are. It can be put on the final plat before it goes to
the BOS.
Motion passed 6-0.
Final Subdivision ö Wayne and Sandra K. Orme
Mr. Wayne Orme has submitted a plat for a family division of lot number
59 in the Highland on the James subdivision located on Cabell Road,
Route 626. Staff has reviewed the plat and recommends approval
because it complies with the minimum survey standards for platted
lots. Mr. Massie Saunders, Surveyor, represented the Ormes and
had no additional comment.
The public hearing was opened. There were no comments. The public hearing was closed.
Mr. Bruguiere made a motion to approve the final plat, Ms. Hunt seconded, and motion passed 6-0.
Final Subdivision ö Paul J. & Sharon Buterbaugh
Mr. and Mrs. Buterbaugh submitted a final subdivision plat dividing
12.267 acres into two parcels of land. The property is identified
as TM #6-A-9A and is located on Lobbans Lane (Rt. 840). The
preliminary subdivision plat was approved by the PC in December, 2004.
Staff has no problem approving the final plat.
Mr. Massie Saunders, Surveyor, representing the Buterbaughs, stated
that the Health Department went to the site on February 4, 2005, to do
the drainfield analysis. The report is not yet available.
The public hearing was opened. No comments were made. Public hearing was closed.
Ms. Russell made a motion to approve the final subdivision plat dated
11/10/04, subject to final approval from the Health Department.
Dr. Walker seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
Final Subdivision ö Nelson County Community Development Foundation (NCCDF)
Mr. Massie Saunders, representing NCCDF, has submitted a final
subdivision plat dividing five acres into two 2.5 acre parcels.
The PC reviewed and approved the preliminary subdivision plat at its
September 22, 2004 meeting. Staff has reviewed the final
subdivision plat, has not identified any major problems with it, and
recommends its approval. Application for soils work has been made.
The public hearing was opened. No comments were made. Public hearing was closed.
Ms. Russell made a motion to approve the final subdivision plat dated
11/29/04. Mr. Harman seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
Final Subdivision ö Glen Mary
Mr. Boger reported that soils work has been completed, and the Health
Department has met with the soil scientist to verify that there are
Class 1 soils on the site, as identified in the report. The
Health Department questions the results of perk testing lots 1-4 ö the
others appear to be OK. The Health Department may have to look at
pre-treatment.
The 100-year floodplain for Reedâs Creek must be shown on the
plat. Although data has been collected showing that the
floodplain may not be as extensive as shown on the flood maps, this
floodplain must be shown as is until the maps are amended by FEMA.
The open space easement has been extended around most of the perimeter
of the site instead of having gaps in it as shown on the preliminary
plat. Acreages include open space. The term ãOpen Space
Easementä should be defined.
Ms. Russell asked how the developer would delineate open space from the
adjacent property owner. Mr. Boger said that the property would
define it. The option is there for a trail.
There was some concern with the erosion control plan, as
designed. The concerns were associated with drainage channels or
lack of, size of culverts, and drainage easements. The
developerâs engineer has worked with the Thomas Jefferson Soil and
Water Conservation District Office (TJS&WCD) and resolved these
concerns.
Steve Crandall, applicant, has spoken with Allyson Sappington of the
TJS&WCD who will complete the E&S review after the PC
meeting. The basic problem is that there are no erosion
channels. Smaller gravel inserted under larger
aggregate. Approval initially did not show open space
easement. There is none along lot 10 which is a steep
hillside. Mr. Crandall stated further that this would be a gated
community, except for parcel A which is separated for business use and
residue.
Ms. Russell noted that the building setbacks for parcel A are shown as
75â from Rt. 664 and it is actually more than 100â. Mr. Crandall
agreed. He stated further that a greenhouse on the property has
been donated to The Wintergreen Nature Foundation. The WPOA
(Wintergreen Property Ownersâ Association) is looking for property to
put it on. The existing building will also include real estate
offices and traditional office space. The applicant will build
roads and a bond will be needed.
The public hearing was opened.
David McGann said he was speaking for 15 people and requesting that the subdivision be approved.
The public hearing was closed.
Ms. Russell said the only issue is the definition of ãopen space
easement.ä Mr. Boger said it canât be required, but it would be
nice to have it on the plat. Open space would be defined in the
deed. Mrs. Proulx said that if the plat has a designated open
space easement it would be defined on the plat. It is not
defined in the covenants at this time. Mr. Crandall said the purpose of
the open space easements was to keep buildings away from property
lines. Mr. Boger suggested that the note, ãOpen space is a
bufferä be added to the plat.
Ms. Russell recommended approval of the final subdivision plat for Glen
Mary dated 02/22/05 which consists of two pages with the condition that
ãOpen Space Easementä be defined on the plat and the setback referred
to on Rt. 664 (Parcel A) be corrected. Dr. Walker seconded, and
motion passed 6-0.
Other Business ö Gaia Homes ö Alan Stacey
Mr. Boger reported that Mr. Stacey is anticipating purchasing the land
adjacent to Tuckahoe Mall (Tax Map 22-A-29), using the interhabs
concept. This may involve rezoning and placement of wells and
septic. The area is zoned B-1 at this time.
Mr. Stacey presented a detailed plan to the Commissioners. He is
exploring the idea of rezoning this 13 acres from B-1 to either R-2 or
AM-R. The land has been for sale for a number of years. He
plans an office complex of approximately 6000 sq. ft., and eventually
another office, coffee shop and retail shops. The land does perk
and the preliminary architectural work, conceptional plan, and
engineering work have been done. The notebook given to the
Commissioners (see file) contained the following:
Section 1. A description of the property.
Section 2. The conceptional plan.
Section 3. Illustrations of apartments. The lower
apartments would be handicapped-accessible.
This is not a hotel/motel concept.
Section 4. Planned office and coffee shop descriptions.
Section 5. History of Gaia Homes, Inc. which
includes their plan for building energy-efficient
homes which are much needed in this area. Their goal is to
provide these energy-efficient homes with a
barn-like appearance.
The requirement for water would be 7 gallons/minute with a 10,000
gallon storage tank, according to Mr. Stacey. Mr. Boger said they
would need public water along with the rezoning from B-1 to R-2.
He stated he would rather see this type of use instead of a shopping
center.
The consensus of the Commissioners was that this is a good plan, good
use of the land, and could satisfy the need for affordable housing in
the County. Mr. Boger advised this was not a guarantee or
commitment of final approval. Mr. Staceyâs next step will be to
apply for rezoning.
Mr. Stacey thanked the Commissioners for their good feedback.
Other Business ö Inquiry from Kim Umstadter
Mr. T. Michael & Mrs. Kim Umstadter submitted a letter (see file)
to Mr. Boger concerning the possibility of moving their business, Final
Touch Tree Service, LLC, to Nelson County from Albemarle County.
The area theyâre looking at is identified as Tax Map 6-A-102A.
Discussion took place comparing the current and new ordinances with
respect to this type of use. Mr. Bruguiere suggested that Mr.
Boger determine what type of ãchipperä they propose to use.
Generally, the Commission felt this was a welcome business to the
County, but expressed concern as to whether it would fit into Light
Industrial or M-1 since both districts stress relatively quiet indoor
operations. Mr. Boger requested that Commissioners review the letter
and provide their comments as soon as possible to enable him to respond
to the Umstadters.
Adjournment ö At 11:30 P. M., Ms. Russell made a motion to adjourn, Mr. Bruguiere seconded, and motion passed 6-0.
Next Meeting - March 23, 2005
Respectfully submitted,
Betty M. Fortune
Secretary