PlanningInformation from Nelson County's Planning Department
April 27, 2005
NELSON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
April 27, 2005
Present: Mr. Thomas Bruguiere, Mr. Michael Harman, Ms. Emily
Hunt, Mrs. Philippa Proulx ö Chair, Ms. Linda Russell, Dr. Valdrie
Walker
Staff Present: Mr. Fred Boger and Mrs. Betty Fortune
Call to Order: Chair Proulx called the meeting to order at 7:30
P. M. The rezoning case on Avon Road, advertised for this
meeting, has been moved to the May agenda.
Approval of Minutes:
No changes were made to the minutes of March 23, 2005. Dr. Walker
made the motion to approve, Ms. Russell provided the second, and motion
passed 6-0.
Final Subdivision Plat ö Beaver Creek
Mr. Boger reported that Mr. Bob Macionis has submitted the final plat
for Beaver Creek Subdivision located on Hunting Lodge Road (Rt.
646). The preliminary subdivision dividing 43.76 acres into eight
lots was approved by the Commission on October 27, 2004. Since
that time, the soil work has been reviewed and approved by the Health
Department. VDOT is OK with the individual entrances.
Therefore, Staff recommends approval of the final subdivision plat.
Brian Ray, of Roger W. Ray & Associates, represented Mr.
Macionis. He stated that this is a by right subdivision, all
required approvals have been received, and he was available to answer
any questions the PC would have. Mr. Harman asked about the 25â
strip shown on the plat and Mr. Ray replied that VDOT requested this
strip to be dedicated for public use in the event the road needs to be
widened in the future.
Public hearing was opened. There were no comments. Public hearing was closed.
Mr. Bruguiere made a motion to recommend to the Board of Supervisors
approval of the Beaver Creek final subdivision plat. Mr. Harman
provided the second. Motion passed 6-0.
Preliminary and Final Subdivision ö Michael & Sally Donovan
Mr. Boger reported that Michael and Sally Donovan have submitted a
final subdivision plat to divide 10.98 acres of their property to
create parcel ãBä of the Sunnyside Farms Subdivision. The required road
for the subdivision has been completed and it complies with the
Countyâs standards for a private road and has been certified by an
engineer. The road can accommodate the traffic generated from this
additional property. The soil work for the new lot has been
completed and forwarded to the Health Department for review and
approval. Access to Blundell Hollow Road must be from Sunnyside
Lane. A telephone call was received from an area resident
indicating there is a stormwater runoff problem associated with the
subdivision. Mr. Donovan stated that he has addressed this
situation. A land disturbing permit is required before any
construction can commence on individual dwellings.
Ms. Russell was concerned that the plat did not show the entire
residue. Mr. Boger said that this has been discussed previously,
and it was decided that when the outline of the residue is shown on the
plat, it meets the requirements of the subdivision ordinance. (It
was also noted that this is not a family subdivision, as advertised.)
Mr. and Mrs. Donovan were present and Mrs. Donovan stated that all of
the property has been surveyed. The residue was not shown because
it wouldnât fit on the plat being reviewed by the PC. They will
attach a copy of the complete plat when the final is submitted.
In regard to stormwater runoff, the E & S plan has been
followed. No runoff water from this property enters the stream.
The public hearing was opened.
Ray LaFalce had questions regarding the 10 acre plat. There are
some very sensitive areas along the creeks. When the original 5
lot subdivision was approved, it looked good on paper, but there is at
least an 18% grade on this property. He would not like to see
this separated into smaller lots with private well and septic.
There are 5 lots already there, and if the land is broken up into
smaller parcels, it would cause a problem with septic systems. He
wants to be assured that there wonât be further division of this
property. To prevent a problem with Creek Road north into the
Donovan property, there needs to be a condition that it stays at 10
acres. He will be watching the creek for problems in the
future. He brought this to the Countyâs attention before the
first 5 lots were divided, and no health department approval was
received.
The public hearing was closed.
Mrs. Donovan stated that covenants with the subdivision do not allow
for this parcel to be further divided. All soil work for the
original five lots and the new lots was approved.
Mr. Boger, referring back to Mr. LaFalceâs statements, said that under
State law, if the owners meet the requirements of the subdivision
ordinance, it must be approved by the PC. Mr. Bruguiere asked the
Donovans if they had plans to further develop the remaining 42
acres. They replied that they did not, but that it is for sale.
Mr. Bruguiere made a motion to recommend to the Board of Supervisors
approval of this plat. Mr. Harman provided the second.
Motion passed 6-0.
Site Plan #2004-007 ö Nelson County High School Parking Lots
Mr. Boger reported that since the March PC meeting, Dr. Roger Collins,
Nelson School Superintendent, and Mr. Bruguiere have met and discussed
plans to correct the stormwater drainage problems that exist on
adjoining properties.
Mr. Custis, engineer with Draper Aden Associates was present and discussed the issues. Several options were presented:
1) Underground detention
2) Subdivision ditch improvements
3) Pipe along Drumheller Orchard Lane
Any one of these three options will work and resolve the drainage
issues. VDOT and E&S approvals are required. The least
expensive would be to make improvements to the ditch and try to get the
water down to the creek. The ditch can be made wider to improve
capacity. Also, water can be retained on site with a retention
facility to e release water slowly. Dr. Collins said that all of
this is pending funding. There is approximately $200,000
available. The only bid came in at $429,000, which has
since been reduced to $357,000.
Mr. Bruguiere stated that when the road (Drumheller Orchard Lane) was
put in, there was no plan for runoff water. It was assumed it
would just run off, which is not the case. Adjoining property
owners are eager to get this resolved and additional funding is being
worked on.
Mrs. Proulx expressed concern over approving the site plan before these
issues are settled. Mr. Collins stated he would like the PC to
approve the site plan so that work may begin as soon as the approvals
are received.
This site plan was not a public hearing item; however, comments were
heard from Mr. Ronald Collins. He reminded the PC of where
the creek runs off onto his property and presented a letter from Alyson
Sappington, TJSWCD. (See file.) There has been four years
of storm damage on his property and he is expecting a solution.
He would like to see the water taken in another direction which would
involve piping to a box culvert.
Mr. Bruguiere stated that the site plan seems to be acceptable.
Mr. Harman suggested that it could be approved contingent on getting
the water runoff problem solved for adjacent property owners. Dr.
Collins said that the bid for this job expires if it extends past May
1. Mr. Boger said that a decision needs to be made tonight, and
the approval can be contingent upon correcting the existing
problems. He also said that the PC could require that the work be
bonded, according to Section 13-6 of the Zoning Ordinance. This
would be a separate bond from E&S bonding and this would
insure that drainage issues are resolved.
Mr. Massie Saunders stated that a concern is taking water off
site. The facility behind the school has a retention pond, and
the water could be taken down through Mr. Collinsâ property. State law
requires that stream banks be stabilized. The bond has not been
released on the original project, which should solve the present
problem. The ditch thatâs there now has been worked on within the
last few weeks and must show stabilization for one year.
Mrs. Proulx stated that the PC has four options at this point:
1) approve the site plan with the contingency of VDOT and E &
S approval; 2) approve the site plan with a bond that is
time-specific; 3) approve the site plan with no contingencies; 4)
turn down the approval for lack of specificity in addressing the issues
related to runoff water on this site.
.
Ms. Russell made a motion to approve the site plan for NCHS parking
lots, dated April 16, 2004, subject to approval of amelioration
proposals, as contained in, but not limited to, the memo from Glenn
Custis to Roger Collins dated April 26, 2005. Such approvals are
to be received from VDOT and E & S agency (Thomas Jefferson Soil
and Water Conservation District) and posting of a performance bond at
the Planning Directorâs office to guarantee completion of the solution
selected. Dr. Walker provided the second, and motion passed 6-0.
Site Plan #2005-001 ö Ligmincha Institute
Mr. Boger reported that Mr. Massie Saunders, Land Surveyor representing
Ligmincha Institute, has submitted a site plan for additions to the
Institute (Phase II) located at 874 Drumheller Lane (Route
714). In 1998 the subject property was purchased by Ligmincha
Institute for the purpose of constructing a retreat center for the
study of the Religion and Culture of Tibet. A concept plan was
presented to the Commission and it was decided that the property would
be used for a religious institution and was a permitted by right use in
the Agricultural District. Some changes were made in parking
lots. The proposed site plan for this phase of development shows
some deviation from the original concept plan with an additional 5,960
sq. ft. dormitory. The plan also shows a future mezzanine,
and a building for future offices, classrooms and bookstore. The
Health Department must determine if the existing sanitary system is
adequate for the proposed expansion. Mr. Saunders is working with
the Thomas Jefferson Soil and Water Conservation District Office to
develop a plan to manage stormwater on this site. There are some design
limitations due to slopes and proximity to the side property line which
require careful study before developing the plan. All building
plans must be drawn by a Virginia licensed architect or engineer.
The site plan can be approved contingent upon Health Department and E
& S approvals.
Mr. Saunders pointed out on the site plan the existing structure, the
proposed additions, and the future improvements. He stated that
the plan is to develop underground stormwater retention on site,
utilize gravel pits, and undercut the patio area for stormwater
retention. A trail will be added to the second parking lot.
The sewer system was planned for full utilization and is being checked
by Hurt & Proffitt. There is currently a 25,000 gallon septic
tank.
Mr. John Massie, Director of Development for the Institute, said that
their primary intention now is to increase the dorm area. There
are usually 4 events per year which last for 5 days each. The
septic system is designed for 100 persons per day for 365 days per
year. The original plan was for open dorm space for 60
people. Occupancy for 80 people is needed, with private rooms and
other privacy areas. This summerâs retreat will have 100+ people,
but not all will stay overnight.
Mr. Harman asked about lighting. Mr. Massie said that some
lighting is required for night movement around the grounds. Some
of the present fixtures are shining outward and lower wattage lighting
can be used.
Mr. Harman made a motion to approve the site plan dated March 14, 2005,
contingent upon items 1 and 2 of Staffâs report (see file). Mr.
Bruguiere provided the second. Mr. Harman amended his motion to
include the submittal of a lighting plan for approval by the Planning
Director. Mr. Bruguiere amended his second and motion carried 6-0.
Other Business: Presentation of Regional Hazard Mitigation Plan
Mr. Boger introduced Mr. Bill Wanner of the Thomas Jefferson Planning
District who presented a summary draft of the Regional Hazard
Mitigation Plan (HMP) for Nelson County, dated April 4, 2005 (see
file). Mr. Wanner stated that Mr. Boger, staff and Ray Uttaro
have been very interested and helpful and Nelson is one of the most
active counties in emergency preparedness planning. If the County
adopts the Hazard Mitigation Plan, funding may be available to update
the floodplain maps. The TJPD has submitted a grant application
for this project.
The next step will be a public hearing on the Plan. This can be
scheduled for the May 25 Planning Commission meeting and then the Board
of Supervisors. Mr. Boger will ask Mr. Uttaro to attend the May
25 meeting.
Mr. Wanner explained that ãreverse E911ä is the ability to get an
emergency message out to every person who has telephone service.
Copies of the HMP will be made available to the public via paper copy
in the Planning Office and by posting on the County website. The
plan will go through formal adoption steps with the PC and BOS.
Other Business:
Mr. Boger reported that the Afton Service Center rezoning decision has
been appealed, following the BOS approval. Also, S. Vance Wilkins
is appealing the BZA decision regarding an interpretation of zoning for
his Arrington Cold Storage property.
Adjournment:
At 10:00 P. M. Dr. Walker made a motion to adjourn, Ms. Hunt provided the second, and motion passed 6-0.
Respectfully submitted,
Betty Fortune
Secretary